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What they call the plain spokenness and seeing barack obama as revealing of the own backgrounds and media cleave toward the plain spoken, harry truman and plain spoken guy and have a will have affair with it and then trump voters in tennessee going down as if you're in the zoo looking at the plain, ordinary, white working class voter as if they're an exhibit and i think that's a problem with media. i think it says something about the east coast/west coast version of the media that that's where the media comes from but with donald trump and an idea he's a genius because he uses twitter and it's...

History? he's not a communications genius. he know who is the audience is. >> right. >> we have to leave it there. joy, jonathan, thank you very much. >> thank you, lawrence. and coming up, the case for normalizing impeachment. this is a hugely important article. the man who wrote it, ezra klein, joins us next. later, my hero rachel maddow joins our year-end special edition of "the last word." this time next year, we're gonna be sitting on an egg. i think we're getting close! make a u-turn... u-turn? recalculating... man, we are never gonna breed. just give it a second. you will arrive in ...

Every president in modern and probably all of presidential history? he's not a communications genius. he know who is the audience is. >> right. >> we have to leave it there. joy, jonathan, thank you very much. >> thank you, lawrence. and coming up, the case for normalizing impeachment. this is a hugely important article. the man who wrote it, ezra klein, joins us next. later, my hero rachel maddow joins our year-end special edition of "the last word."

Applauds those lines, he's going to give them what they want and clearly what they want and what they like is grievance, you know, stewed in with racial animosity and looking at folks like me and joy and like wealthy nfl players as spoiled, ungrateful people to be happy to be here. >> joy, it is not that long ago that most of the mainstream media was falling for the idea that donald trump was somehow a communications genius because he kept communicating successfully with a minority of american voters. >> right. >> and came in, you know, far behind hillary clinton in the vote on election night....

Harris: she's facing her worst nightmare, the gop is aligned against those things, donald trump who has that total relate about. he is a communications genius. he's got that trustworthiness. one of the bigger stories here is dr. ben carson. he's still doing well in that category. he took some incoming over the last couple of weeks with his biography, but he's still among those most trustworthy. and then you have marco rubio who's now releasing some campaign ads, he's got that likability. so they are encircling her on those issues. kennedy: i think rubio absolutely has that likable. the problem...