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The democrats rallied behind him and started, , attackingd. the republicans for being weird . how's that weird are going to work by a party that's obsessed with teaching little kids about transgenderism? how how how's that weird argument going to work? look, i understand, you know james carville's old school at this is this is all about negative campaigning, right? it's like when our guy's not doing good and can't do a good thing you got to do is depress the vote on the other side and keep people at home. i just don't think that's going to work. and the reason we're seeing, you know, the biden...

Azar to the conversation. great to see you. we have had this conversation about the cdc and whether or not people lost confidence in the cdc with the changing rules out there and the way that the virus in itself has changed and as we know it's changed significantly. we have learned something new about the virus every day. what do you make of that question put to the cdc director? >> i certainly understand why the question is being asked. i think most of us in the science community who followed and reported on the pandemic think of it much more a communications problem rather than a quality pro...

Test? we have a serious communications problem. the center for disease control is completely losing it with the american public. there is no credibility. it just when you might need it most. at this point you cannot continue to divide the vaccinated from the unvaccinated when it comes to omicron, because everybody can spread it if you are vaccinated or not vaccinated, so we need to be smart and do things like wash our hands, even things like for example in japan they have a very good culture of when they are sick, they are protective of their vulnerable, we can adopt things like that, but you ...

Cedric richmond, welcome to the show. >> thanks for having me, chuck. >> let me start with this, you look at the current situation and polling and the political environment and you look at what you're doing in the white house, do you believe you have a communications problem or do you believe you have a substance problem? >> we don't have a substance problem and the truth s chuck, i think that americans are exhausted just living their daily lives right now. people are focused on making sure that they protect themselves and their families from covid, making sure that there's food on the table, ...

Incompetently, and then the president and the vice president have admitted that they never saw this variant, the omicron variant coming, and you know, obviously there are a lot of things in a pandemic that are sort of -- that you can't predict, such as the pandemic itself. the one thing you can predict is there is going to be a variant, and if testing is going to be a part of it, you have to have the tests ready and you have to be prepared for it and so these people not only do they have the worst policies right now, refuse to change direction when they realize that their policies are not work...