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About strzok, rosenstein, talking to my sources, there are 12 people, 12 people in this conspiracy at the highest level -- >> sean: are these people mentioned in the memo? >> no. this is not in the memo, this is phase two. remember, the memo is the tip of the iceberg. sean, i'm worried. the g.o.p. doesn't understand strategic communication. if they don't release this memo now, they will lose the war in this communications battlefield. they are being diligent, very cautious, but the fact is, you see adam schiff spinning, the republicans are taking weeks and months to get everything double check...

Pitched battle between his various successors and possible challengers. the speaker's battle now has been joined by jason chaffetz, running against kevin mccarthy. congressman chaffetz now joins me. congressman, thank you very much for being with us. this has divided the conference. tell me why you are going up against kevin mccarthy. >> i like to think i'm not running against kevin mccarthy. he's a good man. he's done a lot. he's big reason why we are in the majority. i have put my name in to become the next speaker of the house. having an internal debate as to who should be the next speaker ...

Mccarthy. in an interview today, chaffetz said republicans have lost the communications war. >> when you say kevin mccarthy doesn't speak, what do you mean by that? >> well, it's nothing personal. i'm just saying in general, we need a speaker who speaks. generally the speakers have had a very silent role. we haven't won the communications war. >> so you don't think he's a good communicator? >> i think he's fine normally, but i'm saying i think i can do that portion of the job much better. >> joining me now, nbc news capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell, good to see you. >> good to be wit...

Majority leader. the chairman recently led the planned parenthood hearings. he was just interviewed about why he wants to challenge mccarthy. >> what is wrong with the team? >> there needs to be a fresh start. there are internal processes, i think, the communications war is not going well. we seem to seed that at every level. we haven't been taking the fight to the democrats and the president. that's what we got elected to do. >>. let's go straight to dana bash, who has some news on this vote on secret ballot thursday. what's in play here to have this potential shakeup or challenge to the exis...

Scenario where this attack comes out justified ushd international law. which is why such strong language from msf right now. >> also msf wanting that full independent investigation. bob, just quickly on the government. side of things, how transparent do you think they will be? >> probably not very. we're not going to want to identify who gave the coordinates and it's a huge embarrassment. addressing those comments, we have been hitting civilian targets for the last 15 years in afghanistan. it's just the way the war has always been fought and the computers have never caught up with modern war f...