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Throughout this year that ken paxton has it out for the community. and that's very concerning, that they would be collecting this data. because we can pretty much guarantee that it would not be used for positive reasons. and i think it's also just very devastating that we continue to see these attacks against the community writ large. whether it's on the cultural front, where we have figures like a j. k. rolling or dave chappelle or even elon musk, just last week saying ridiculous things about trans people, to what is happening, obviously, with our politicians, like ken paxton and so on -- i r...

President, nonetheless. trump owes the district a whopping $9 million in unpaid fees for the inauguration and this summer's july 4th salute to america. joining me now for more on all the president's debt is dave levinthal, editor at large at the center for public integrity, which published an exhaustive study earlier this year on the trump campaign's refusal to pay their public safety bill. dave, good to see you. thank you for being with us. >> hey, great to be with you tonight. >> dave, what can one do about this? i think every city that hears that donald trump's coming has got to be aware of...

Community writ large because they're a lot like her. >> so, chuck, pick up that point because, yes, the president is entitled to have whoever he wants in positions like this, but the concern that's being expressed is hey, you had dan coats there who had this reputation, certainly the last couple of years on both sides of the aisle of being sort of, for lack of a better term, being unafraid to give truths to the president that maybe he didn't want to hear that was the reputation, at least. the concern is that the president maybe isn't interested in somebody who would continue that legacy. josep...

Effectively she would be demoted eventually. and so unfortunately, what that tells the rest of the intelligence community is that the president doesn't respect a serious professional like her. i've met her before. i've heard her speak. i know that she is very well respected, deeply and also widely across the intelligence community. and so here the president is telling someone like that i don't value who you are and what you stand for. that's disturbing to the community writ large because they're a lot like her. >> so, chuck, pick up that point because, yes, the president is entitled to have wh...

The president is, but it is not fair to say that he had -- that the intelligence community writ large can now go on the hunt for people they don't like, that is patently false, there is oversight of this, there is judicial oversight of this. this is congressional oversight of this, there is inspector general oversight of this. this is one of those programs that has more people looking at it than are actually doing the work. and so i wouldn't -- that'd be the least thing i'd be concerned about, but it was really important to make sure that our intelligence community had the ability to listen to...