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Specific company? >> well, what i am referring to is the fact that these guys continue to receive huge compensation packages. you have blankfein from goldman sachs, i guess he's a billionaire now, making huge amounts of money, after destroying the economy. i think that that is -- it's not just him. >> but he's an example -- >> he's an example, yes. >> what's a current example of recklessness. >> recklessness is that we have not changed. wall street has not yet changed its business model, instead of investing and making affordable loans available to small and medium-sized businesses, they conti...

Why were you walking the picket line today? >> because verizon is now doing exactly what many, many other large profitable corporations are doing, and that is as the corporations make huge profits, as their ceos get huge compensation packages, they are either not negotiating with a union in one case, workers can't get a first contract, or else they are bringing forth a contract for other workers which is a bad contract. and they fired another worker whose crime in life was that she was busy organizing, trying to organize the union. so to my mind what verizon is doing is what we're seeing all o...

In those programs. >> if the debt ceiling depends on, it raising the debt ceiling depends on it, comes down to your vote, is raising the debt ceiling, avoiding that sort of catastrophic effort -- catastrophic effect on the economy, would that be worth it? >> that's a hypothetical. i don't think actually that it's going to be the case. >> you joined unionized verizon workers protesting earlier today in midtown manhattan. why were you walking the picket line today? >> because verizon is now doing exactly what many, many other large profitable corporations are doing, and that is as the corporatio...

Exactly what many, many other large profitable corporations are doing, and that is as the corporations make huge profits, as their ceos get huge compensation packages they are either not negotiating with a union in one case, workers can't get a first contract, or else they are bringing forth a contract for other workers which is a bad contract. and they fired another worker whose crime in life was that she was busy organizing, trying to organize the union. so to my mind what verizon is doing is what we're seeing all over this country, is corporations going to war against their own workers. the...

Millions of people in this country are in desperate need of work you're not going to pay your ceos of large corporations huge compensation packages and then cut the wages and health care and retirement programs of the people who work for you. that is not going to happen anymore. when we talk about what's going on in our economy, it is important to understand that, yes, thank god, the economy today is a lot better than it was when george w. bush left office. when bush left office we were losing 800,000 jobs a month. today we're growing 150,000, 250,000 jobs a month, and that's