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2016? >> tea party too? >> there are 30 republican governors. there is a huge base of competency building out there. and if the president's not careful, by 2014, five or six of those state capitals are going to look a lot more competent than washington, d.c. and so there's a real -- and these are people who are winning elections, broad-based coalitions. christie is an example. but although he didn't do all that well in this last round, rick perry is another example. rick perry is a smart guy. it's the second biggest state. he is eagerly awaiting californians migrating to texas in large numbers...

2016? >> tea party too? >> there are 30 republican governors. there is a huge base of competency building out there. and if the president's not careful, by 2014, five or six of those state capitals are going to look a lot more competent than washington, d.c. and so there's a real -- and these are people who are winning elections, broad-based coalitions. christie is an example. but although he didn't do all that well in this last round, rick perry is another example. rick perry is a smart guy. it's the second biggest state. he is eagerly awaiting californiansi] migrating to tex in large numbers...

And what does he do? does he side with john boehner? because they are certainly going to have to make concessions on tax rates. and what does that mean for him? how does that box him in for 2016? >> tea party too? >> there are 30 republican governors. there is a huge base of competency building out there. and if the president's not careful, by 2014, five or six of those state capitals are going to look a lot more competent than washington, d.c. and so there's a real -- and these are people who are winning elections, broad-based coalitions. christie is an example. but although he didn't do all ...