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New protest in greece today over that country's plan to raise taxes as part of a bailout deal. europe, europe, europe. >> europe, europe, europe. the good news, chuck, though, is actually the markets opening up higher today again on speculation that things are getting better in europe, but germany is going to be voting on this stability fund that they're trying to bring together, emergency stability fund, tomorrow. finland already voted on it and said yes. that's the good news. the bad news is some people don't believe it's still big enough. the other thing people in the markets looking for to...

Competit competitor. >> joining us now, senior fellow at the center of budget priorities and robert riesh and professor at the university of california berkley. he's the author of "saving capitalism", that's out september 29. josh barro, and a msnbc contributor. professor riesh, do these candidates have it right? do they have anything about this situation right? >> i don't think they have anything right, lawrence about anything. but particularly about this situation. i mean, the idea of somehow dividing the world, getting ourselves independent of china, the largest economy in the world, is abs...