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Republic. >> no i'm an independent and i have been forever. >> somewhat biggest problem that small business owners face right now is misuse of our time. we're spending too much time energy and effort on things that have nothing to do with building business, building strategy. >> like what. >> trying to figure compliance issues. is my business going to right rules and regulations in order for me to stay? business or am i going to be tiny? capital issues? how am i going to figure out how to get capital? >> bill: why can't a good business or somebody who is energetic why can't they go to the bank...

>> no i'm an independent and i have been forever. >> somewhat biggest problem that small business owners face right now is misuse of our time. we're spending too much time energy and effort on things that have nothing to do with building business, building strategy. >> like what. >> trying to figure compliance issues. is my business going to right rules and regulations in order for me to stay? business or am i going to be tiny? capital issues? how am i going to figure out how to get capital? >> bill: why can't a good business or somebody who is energetic why can't they go to the bank and get m...

Transportation employees. >>neil: where does the money go, congressman, that we fork over the 18.5 percent federal gas tax. >>guest: it goes do trail and other things nothing to do with the gas tax. and we have a bureaucracy that is iting standards and doing other types of compliance issues, cut out the middle man. let the states do it. >>neil: but they have a lot of high taxes: california, new york, hawaii, connecticut. as congress men you would have no discretion over what the states do but if you get the feds out of the picture and remove the 18.4 cents that is a third of how much the price...

Why taxes go up because they don't cut medicare. >> you have to address both sides. you have to address the spending side. >> you can't want all of this other stuff because it can't all happen and that would lead to ruin. dagen: but, john, we are seeing donald trump go after regulations for every one dollar in new regulations, these agencies in washington are going to have to the economy would be 25% bigger if we had not had regulations. if there had been no new regulations since the 1980s. >> that's right. we saw a regulation reform a little bit in 1996 with the small business fairness act un...