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Engages them. chris hill, if i can just say, is one of the country's leading, most iconic diplomats. one has to put out there is when chris hill was engaging in north korea, he had a full team behind him. he knew where the president of the united states was. they had an ambassador in south korea. you know, you had all of these component pieces, which are another part of the missing dimensions of this we're not talking about. the state department is missing a few limbs as it's trying to deal with this north korea mess. >> steve, isn't that deliberate? i mean, don't you think that, perhaps, this...

>> does this all blow up into a major regional war, or are we already there? >> well, i like that view that we're already there. i think it's clear we're already there. the place is falling to pieces. i think it's liable to get much nastiyer and wider. i don't think anybody is going to lying the results. you're liable to have cups that are now dissolving their their component pieces. the fights between shia and sunni will continue no matter what happens on the ground. by the way, that's a fight that's been going on 1,300 years and is not going to stop any time soon. >> okay. thank you, sir. >>...

To be used either by islamic radicals or domestic terrorists. so it's much harder to determine, okay. this looks like al qaeda or it looks like somebody else because the recipe and the equipment is so readily available if you want to try and google it on the internet. >> and they're not all that complicated, difficult to make. fran townsend you're our homeland security analyst. you worked as the homeland security adviser to president bush. this pressure cooker type of bomb, i've been told that they are fairly, pretty evident in afghanistan, pakistan, maybe in iraq and not all that complicated ...

Hook it up to the timing device is not very complicated. and so you're unlikely to get sort of the kind of intelligence and leads that they had hoped for from looking at the signature of the bomb. what we haven't talked about, wolf, the special agent in charge in boston did say the component pieces they collected have been sent to the bomb analysis center in quantico, virginia. they'll be looking for fingerprints, dna, the sorts of things while not a signature for a bomb will lead you -- may lead you to an individual. you know, we talk about whether or not this is foreign or domestic, you know...

With john king. we'll get back to him in a moment as soon as we can get that line fixed. i want to now bring in cnn national security analyst fran townsend. she has some new developments on the possible construction of this bomb. fran, what have you learned? >> jake, federal law enforcement officials confirmed to cnn, now, that this was -- these were, in fact, pressure cooker explosive devices. it was explained to me that these pressure cooker devices necessarily include a circuit board, a timer, but they would not confirm that they had found pieces of those component pieces of the bombs, the ...