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Situations in the president's job approval a point, two points here and there. the news cycle on this issue has not really played out yet. i think there is more of a -- more of a compounding effect here because it's a question about leadership, bill. it's not particularly about this issue of the ground zero mosque. it is whether or not the american people perceive barack obama to be a strong leader, a strong president. >> bill: i think that's a legitimate point that he doesn't seem to handle these kind of situations, the cambridge thing with the cop and the professor, the swing of arizona. ali...

And it allows this compounding effect to grow and grow and grow over time. >> and generally speaking, it's easy to understand, a 401(k) or a 403(b), because you've got somebody at work you can call. probably have some website you can go to. an i.r.a., ryan, it gets one level of greater complexity, because it's one removed from your workplace. but can actually be more beneficial. there are a couple kinds of them. what's your thought on i.r.a.s? >> well, basically, in terms of the traditional versus the roth i.r.a., which are two of the most popular i.r.a.s individuals use, it's whether or not -...

You're 65, you have a lot more money. as a matter of fact, if you wait ten years and you start saving at 35, you only have half as much money. it's really important to put this money away tax-free as donna and ryan are suggesting and do it as young as you can, and if you're going to get a match, again, it's free money and it allows this compounding effect to grow and grow and grow over time. >> and generally speaking it's easy to understand a 401(k) or 4034 4 40 3 b that you can call. there are a couple kinds of them. what's your thought on i.r.a.s? >> basically in terms of the traditional ver...

>> it cost us $5 billion. it may have cost us lives. do you fault the budget control act for the death of the sailors? >> two answers there. one, we're waiting for the studies to come out, the reviews to come out, hugh. those will be coming out shortly. the second is fundamentally, yes, i do. the navy is an organization that is biased to action. no is not a word that is easily reached for in the lexicon. we will do when tasked. we have been overtasked. we have been stretched thin. 16 years of war. now restricted resources. it was a compounding effect. we were exhausting naval accounts, mainten...