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The kremlin could use as compromising material. zbli >> i have to say, if they had it it would have been out long ago. >> he had one. >> i would like to add something to this. after all i was an intelligence officer myself. i know how a dossier is made up. >> admitted that he preferred trump to win the election over hillary clinton. >> yes. i did. yes. i did. because he talked about brinking the u.s./russia relationship back to normal. >> we reported u.s. intelligence coon rated multiple contacts between trump campaign officials during the campaign. at the time not only did the

Because for donald trump, it really is all about the money. >> troy, how do you figure the chicken and the egg question. was he gunning for president to build up the business or was he making some money on the way to the presidency or was it all -- was it he never thought he would be elected and he was thinking about the money. >> i do think he never thought he was going to be elected president. this was all a marketing thing for him. it totally got out of hand. we've all been focused on did they have compromising material. maybe it was something as simple as this hotel project because he thin...

They call compromising material. so to the extent that the president is not being truthful publically, not being truthful to the american people, not being truthful to our foreign interlocutors overseas and the russians know this. potentially, that gives them a way of exerting leverage over the president. so it's a dangerous practice. i mean, all presidents have at times not been completely truthful or distorted the truth. but nothing on the scale of this one. >> director james clapper, a pleasure to have you with us. thank you so much. >> thanks, john. to the world of entertainment, it has ...

Scenarios here and you zero in on the scenarios that appear most likely to be substantiated that the point, scenario number five, we'll put this up on the screen so folks get t russian intelligence effectively penetrated the trump campaign and trump knew or should have known about it. and two, there was compromising material. we're at five, possibly going to six. explain that. >> this was outlined about a year and a half ago, ranging from most innocent to most guilty. i think what's really striking is when you begin to put together the pieces that we've learned, even just over the last two wee...

Did that give the russians a form of kompromat over the future president? >> well, i think it does. i mean, the russians will engender kompromat, their acronym for compromising material, whether it's real or contrived. so anything that even smacks of putting himself in a compromising position. and whether or not this is true about the offer of the $50 million penthouse in trump tower moscow. yeah, that gives the russians potentially some -- to use congressman nadler's term, leverage. and that's what the russians looked for. and that's why they tried to generate kompromat. >> i want to switch g...