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Actually and it is included in that application as backup to their evidence. >> they were -- they had three renewals of this, and four judges look adt it. i won't question that, ana, but i call the balls and the strikes and i get the noise on both ends of the spectrum and i watched carter page this morning with jake tapper on "state of the union" and this is a united states naval graduate and academic and seemed unwitting and dupe and he claims that he was offering no compromising material. he says that the basis behind the application is specious, and he can make that argument, but was it the...

Sanctions or compromising the material that they had on hillary clinton? >> on compromising material, not one thing. i was hearing about things when you were hearing about things in the main stream media. when i was there in july of 2016, a few people brought it up in passing, but, you know, again, it's a major economic issue and so, you know, there may have been a loose conversation -- i'm very careful in terms of making sure that there's a clear record. there is nothing in terms of any nefarious behavior. >> so you did discuss the sanctions with individuals in russia. did you ever hear from ...

So does russia have compromising material on president trump? that's a question being asked seriously by some intelligence officials and even republican lawmakers after president trump's strange performance alongside putin earlier this week in helsinki. our story on what exactly the russian koss have on the president. >> again, president putin, thank you very much. >> reporter: the president's stunning embrace of vladimir putin in helsinki has again fueled questions over putin's possible kompromat, leverage over the president and has members of congress and others looking for answers. putin wa...

Will get out. and everybody else he treats differently. that is what sickens me. >> do you feel this way as well? >> i agree with the symptoms but not sure i understand the cause. in other words i'm not prepared to go there saying the president is influenced directly by any compromising material the russians have. what i would add is it doesn't matter. we cannot proceed with any realistic explanation with the russians if the president is not prepared to take a hard line with vladamir putin. his entire intelligence community is in opposition to him and a struggle to watch to both support the pr...

Trump's actions were treasonous? >> i do not. >> john brennan's tweet is no small thing. here to discuss this is max boot and ian bremmer. max, you wrote if anyone is the enemy of the president which is the line the president uses against the free press, it's trump himself. what about that word treason? is it -- is that a word that should be being used? >> well, it's fascinating to me, anderson, that it is in the conversation and in a very serious way being used by very serious people like john brennan, a career cia professional, who by the way was cia director during the 2016 campaign. so he ...