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Thank god we have a catchment that catches people and institutions that step up and suck in these patients free, take care of them for free. i'm having a problem right now where my patients don't want to sign up for insurance. interns here, i couldn't get them to sign up today. they don't have insurance. because they're not used to paying for insurance. they feel invincible. they don't want to. there's a person who doesn't have a computer it's hubristic to tell them to go online. it's a massive cultural problem as well as political and institutional and insurance problem. let's all keep in min...

Tonight on "countdown" senator sherrod brown is here. on this show if the supreme court's level of tech savvy were a computer it would be broken that sparked when you plugged it in. i will explain with the help of some puppets next.

The castle and get personal information that can be used for espionage and i.d. theft and the data can be mined and sold on the internet, around the world but now, martha, it doesn't appear there is any really clear focused criminal objective, other than the fact these hackers are continuing their illicit operations. martha. martha: for those of us who cannot really understand how you do this, i mean, it seems like most computers are relatively safe, how does this kind of attack work? >> reporter: what they are using is a sophisticated program, that is called zeus and according to netwitness t...