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Of the technical people in it, changes in technology and how we were part of it even though in our companies we were the fringe element. we are not the managers and leaders but boy, just a clever design on its own had value. >> you have these guys like steve jobs and steve wozniak and bill gates and paul allen who had been messing around on the edges of what would become the personal computer industry but no one in corporate america and no one in most of the homes of america thought that the personal computer was anything that would ever have -- would ever even happen, let alone have any relev...

And how we a part of it, even at our companies we were the fringe element. we had the jeans. a clever design on its own had value. >> you had these guys like bill gates and steve wozniak. but no one in corporate america and no one in most of the homes of america thought that the personal computer was anything that would ever have, would ever even happen, let alone have any relevance to them. >> for all of us, the computer revolution was really exciting. it was like, wow, this is wide open. >> it was a group of people who want to make a change in the world. and eventually, the two forces in sil...

Created that we've never imagined. that is what is growth is about, not going back to the jobs of the past. david: e-mack, we never saw the computer revolution coming back in the '70s. >> that's true. david, what he is happening is a change in town. remember the demoralizer in chief. david: talking president obama? >> correct. last summer said those manufacturing jobs, they're not coming back. guess what? they're starting to come back. why? because you have a new administration. the democrats owned this narrative too long. their attitude. tax give aways to the rich or tax give aways to compani...

There was a lot of this revolutionary theme, a lot of people into the changes in technology and how we a part of it, even at our companies we were the fringe element. we had the genes. a clever design on its own had value. >> you had these guys like bill gates and steve wozniak. but no one in corporate america and no one in most of the homes of america thought that the personal computer was anything that would ever even happen, let alone have any relevance to them. >> for all of us, the computer revolution was really exciting. it was like, wow, this is wide open. >> it was a group of people wh...

Really hard about making a computer was now on a chip. so all of a sudden, people who had a dhithirst for this stuff could go out and buy a home brew computer. you could make them yourself. >> there were a lot of people into the changes in technology and how we a part of it, even at our companies we were the fringe element. we had the genjeans. a clever design on its own had value. >> you had these guys like bill gates and steve wozniak. but no one in corporate america and no one in most of the homes of america thought that the personal computer was anything that would ever have, would ever ev...