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The 10:00 show that jay leno did in front of conan o'brien and "the tonight show" i think was a disservice to conan having a fair shot of succeeding as the host of the tonight show. it was offered to him six years before. it was not a surprise. and in my opinion, as george lopez, i don't think that jay leno should have done a show at 10:00. >> larry: so that you were team coco. >> i'm team coco. and now i'm team lo-co. >> larry: you know that crossover idea is interesting. we're going to see him at the beginning of yourself, you'll come on at the end of his? you'll be like a team. >> you know,...

There are no affiliates. and they allow you to do your type of show. i believe that the system of the network talk show is a little bit dated. larry, the guys are a little bit older. they're not as fresh. people are tuning away. the demographic for "lopez tonight" is 33 years old. that's amazingly young. and with conan, it is an incredible contribution to our dynamic two-hour block every night. come on. hey, larry, it sells itself. come on. >> larry: you saying -- are you predicting then that these shows are going to do very well, the 11:00 and the 12:00? >> i am predicting that these shows wi...

And said it was all right with you? what did he say to you? >> you know, everybody has been asking me this question. i haven't really answered this question from the time conan and i last spoke on sunday. i'm going to tell you, and i think respectfully conan will not have an issue with this. what he was concerned with was that he wasn't going to do to me what was done to him at nbc. that was his biggest concern, that he did not want to get, as they say on twitter, leno'd. i am not getting leno'd. i welcome conan. i think that moving to midnight, hey, i'll go to work an hour later, come on. it'...

I'm a taxpayer. if they go to jail, you and i are responsible for paying 41 grand or more a year for them to be incarcerated. what is prison supposed to be about? >> larry: well, it's supposed to rehab. >> that's what i'm about. but if we're not rehabbing, you're not making any sense. put them in and let's hire psychiatrists to work with these people and turn them around. >> larry: makes sense. before you leave us, bill, we have to ask you what, do you make of what is going on late night, lopez, o'brien, leno? what do you make of all of this? >> i'm sorry i started it. it's all because i would...

Conan was hesitant to do this. he didn't want to see someone get bumped to a later time, that you personally called conan and assured him it was okay. >> absolutely, larry. last wednesday, steve koonin who is the head of tbs flew and said i have something that sounds really crazy. if i don't have your blessing, this deal does not go forward. what do you think of conan o'brien coming to tbs and taking the 11:00 spot and you going to midnight? i said i think it's fantastic. he said will you call conan and tell him how you feel about tbs, how we do business? absolutely. tbs and warner pictures ha...