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Indictment. commenting that mueller's tactics are more consistent with how you go after organized crime syndicate. can we assume here that mueller's russia probe is closing in on manafort. >> manafort may not be able to escape. he may not have damaging information enough on trump to kind of get flipped. when you talk about a guy like manafort who is dealing with millions of dollars from shady ukrainian political parties. not surprised mueller says that's not kosher. we'll talk to you again at the

And went to the court and got the warrants. the warrants continued if are sometime. we don't know when it stopped, but what we do know in regards to the russia medaling investigation that the former fbi director james comey revealed in july when he testified before congress that the investigation got started in july. that is when we believe sometime around then that the fbi asked for another fisa warrant. it is not clear exactly when they started listening in on manafort's conversations. in the russia medaling investigation if it was while he was as the campaign chairman, but we know definitiv...

Secret court orders before and after the election. on the team that broke this story, we have the details. a stunning development where the chairman is wire tapped. when this happened and why it's important to the investigation. >> the second part is for the investigation and in part because this is all now been shared with the special counsel's team and bob mueller and his team has this. it's become part of the investigation and it's certainly the intelligence that they have been working off and the intelligence that the fbi agents have been working through. keep in mind that the secret warra...

Investigation or who were carrying out the search warrant had some indication as to the amount or the weight of the evidence that they were going to find. but it's very important as your last guest was talking about, the idea you cannot kwlat two very separate investigations. it may be he has a possible indict with respect to his ukrainian ties or he's already being looked at by the new york attorney general for his different financial dealings, et cetera. so it may be an indication of a threat that was not founded in the collusion-based criminal probe, something different. either way what you...

To be openly discussing this case and the confusion swirling around the trump lawyers's team and the force that mueller is bringing not only is the fisa warrant shocking, this dichotomy is shocking too. >> there is a lot of tension. >> the combination of this warrant for manafort and insinuation on top of that that he has evidence in his home that he would destroy if you knock on the door and the idea that they believe he committed enough of a crime, prosecutors or legal experts say prosecutors are doing when they try flip a witness. they believe he has information on his former colleagues and...