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Minister prior to him and, you know, his whole job was to manage it better, he had been for 20 years, basically the head of the equivalent of fema, bigger than fema but any way, he was known to be a good manager and they poured billions of dollars into this modernization. so he probably had a motivation to tell his boss that everything was okay. to my understanding, if i could add one thing about the lies, i mean, the fact that he didn't know, according to our intelligence, vladimir putin didn't know that con scripts were involved in the war is actually startling. because my understanding is i...

>> it is, marie. >> he used that term multiple times in the past. the sheriff -- he referred to ms13, the president said they're animals and they are. >> if i can finish my point, please. >> you should be accurate. >> let's not use that word about people. we're talking about a polarizing situation. where each side gets pushed to the absolute extremes on the left and the right and there's no political incentive for compromise. in an election year or not. so congress is the one who needs to fix. this and i think we'll talk later in the show about the house possibly being forced to debate daca be...