I think we should be careful to assume the washington new york people think who is good is who is good. conservative base is very different and they may like the way carson and trump approach issues like immigration. >> you know what, bob, in the last debate, you know, the elite folks all said carly fiorina won that kiddie table debate, should have been at main debate and should be in the cnn debate, and there she is. now today a lot of people are still praising her performance last night. will you be surprised if carly fiorina doesn't tick up dramatically in the polls and maybe even threaten ...