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If you are in an enclosed space, it will have a concussive effect. that is why the british authorities are saying this could have been so much worse. it complete the nation really could've killed dozen of people on the train. >> catherine herridge, thank you. we are going to get a shot of marine 1. we believe the president is going to be walking off of marina 1 any moment now. here is that. marine 1 arriving in joint force base andrews. president trump and the first lady planning to visit with airmen and participate in an air fleet demonstration. the president is expected to speak to military ...

Are working to assess what happened in manchester and they noted the following. if it is confirmed as terrorism, it is a level of sophistication beyond the recent u.k.-based plots that have involved knives and vehicles as weapons. they also pointed to the reports of shrapnel is deeply concerning because this is another indicator of premeditation. a plot that may have been directed by a foreign terrorist organization. reports of the explosion at an exit -- that's another indicator suggesting premeditation. it amplifies the concussive effect of the explosion. and also maximizing casualties. i as...

Attack at the ariana grande concert in the u.k. 22 people dead, dozens hurt, many of them children. isis is claiming responsibility for the carnage. so far, intelligence sources have not corroborated that. catherine herridge is live with us with the latest details on that. based on the police news conference that they were having trouble identifying the bomber who they just named, what's going on with that? >> this is another piece of evidence that tells us that the impact of this explosion was a significant magnitude and it goes to the issue of premeditation. that's what i'm hearing consisten...

They have another bomb much larger than that one to penetrate if you need to to get underground. it has a concussive effect and collapses the tunnel. this is a bad guy area, to be sure. this is giving the afghan forces and the americans in the area problems for over a decade, this province area. this particular bomb, this gbu-43 as it's called, replaced another one from the vietnam era called a daisy cutter. you know, when you're talking about a commander, i'm going to channel some of my former combat commander status on this, you literally look when you target areas, it's something called a j...

>> the air force is very good at using the right weapon for the right target. truthfully, i haven't heard the term moab since about 2003. i was in the pentagon as a joint planner before we went into iraq and there was discussion of using a moab not only in iraq against potential saddam har get wh but also in the fight in afghanistan when we were just entering that battle field going after osama bin laden. it is a concussive weapon which means the blast is what is the main effect of the weapon. it isn't like dropping a bomb and you're hoping to blow something up. you literally have the concussi...