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You do the right thick, not do the wrong thing. but a lot of push and pull, lot of give and take. >> do you like it, are you happy here? >> look, i'm in a point now after five years where i miss certain things about home. i miss my buddies, i miss burritos, i miss having certain beverages with my buddies and burritos at certain type of establishments. but i love it. i love it and i hate it. it's home. its become home. >> our optimistic about the future? >> yeah, especially if there's no -- finally happens, yeah. very much actually. >> shortly after, jason was arrested by the regime and held. i...

You bullet proof. >> you know, i didn't know him well enough to know -- to know if he was still haunted by it put i'm sure it never leaves you. when you go through that kind of experience it's always going to be there. you might it, deal with it, and move on. i always thought he did an amazing job in moving on. and in the process, helping all of us move on. >> he was so real and so authentic, in the end, maybe he was too real for his own self. i think the real thing the know he was a deeply, deeply human being, he was a devine talent, a unique voice and deeply human. when people came to sit ...

Wasn't a part unknown to them. >> his stories wasn't about food. food was a conduit it drew you in. once it drew you in it was about the experience, connection and interactions with people. >> it was the obama white house who reached out to cnn, and i put them in touch with bourdain. they wanted -- that's who anthony bourdain was, obama wanted to go have food with him, not the other way around. >> anthony's point was, i didn't want some fancy state dinner, it's got to be the scooter and the whole thing. and he got it his way. >> how you liking vietnam? >> love it. >> anthony said for him, whil...

He looked at me and asked, what are you about, what is your passion? >> and i said, fighting. i love to fight. and his eyes -- i remember he had these hooded eyes -- and he recently found gjj. and he loved it so much. >> every morning, 7:00 a.m. i'm here. for the next hour or two hours or sometimes more, i'm just getting crushed. >> the most recent conversation i had with him was not too long ago. he had said, you know what i love about it, the struggle. i love the struggle. i love trying to figure out how to get out of this and what to do next. and that struggle, no matter how much you think ...

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