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The rest of the conference enough, thomas. think, there's 40 or so in the freedom caucus and over 200 that don't like everything the kauai sus is doing and think they're moving the party in the wrong direction. i think in this respect ryan is touching on a nerve that many me believes are happy to have to change the conference rules and have it be a conversation that's conference wide and looks good for him becoming speaker. if the freedom caucus comes out today or tomorrow and says we are not going to endorse him and sticking behind daniel webster, ryan more likely than not takes a pass on the...

That if the freedom caucus is intent on doing that, then what ryan could do is say look, let's have a large scale conference-wide discussion because it's unfair to allow the 40 most conservatives to drive the agenda. let's bring in the moderates, bring in the people in between. let's then have a date set, perhaps sometime next year, where we will have a vote on changing conference rules. if ryan commits to that, maybe that's enough for these conservative members to get on board with him. we'll see. it seems they are not that willing as of right now. >> luke russert, thank you. that does it f...

Conference rules which would take more power away from the speaker and give it more toward committee chairs and other house positions. the reason why ryan wouldn't do that is because then the job becomes less appealing. you don't have as much power. the other thing, though, and i think this is underreported, kate, is that you have these 40 members who are saying, change the rules, change the rules -- guess what! there are over 200 members that are fine with the rules the way they are, that say why would you reward this unsubordinate behavior by far right-winger, we can't do that. i think he'll...

Boehner speakership. one way to do this is to change the conference rules. so it's easier to strip someone who votes against the speaker of all their committees. you vote against the speaker. you don't have any committee you can tell your constituents against. something else smart they're thinking of doing is releasing a list of a couple dozen members who said they will vote for no one else for speaker. this would make it mathematically impossible to deny boehner the speakership. it would take away a lot of the drama and power from the people that wanted to do it. at least a couple of the peop...