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Erica, that -- that's just in his head. there's nothing he can point to that says look here in this document that kim jong-un signed as to proving that the threat is completely removed. so that is just president trump's feeling after his conversations but he can't actually point and say this is the proof that the threat is removed. >> ian, go ahead. >> you're righting that there's nothing in the document that proves that but there's a lot of north korea's actions over the course of the past few months. certainly the summit between president moon and south korea and kim jong-un and the confiden...

They've all been broken. what's your feeling or your sense? >> we don't know. it seems to me we are not going to get a major announcement out of this summit. that seems very unlikely. my guess is you will get a commitment for more meetings, perhaps more summits. the first reagan-gorbachev summit came there came an announcement they were going to meet in washington then there would be a reciprocal summit in moscow that was considered progress. progress is going to continue. i would think the most important thing to come out of the summit as confidence building. president trump comes away with a...

Trip? >> look, north korea has built over 50 years a system that finally led to the breakout, the development of a nuclear warhead, and most people think now the ability to deliver that warhead even as far as main land united states. it's not so easy to dismantle that program even if the north koreans were willing to allow the international community to do so. and that's the big question what the president is asking us, americans, and the world to do is to trust kim jong-un. and there's no rea for the president to confer that prestige and trust on kim jong-un at this time. it really i think br...

Relief that a process of diplomacy has started. i think it's really important to understand that today really was a beginning. the most important language i think in the document that they released is in the preamble where it says, the two sides are committed to confidence building measures that will eventually achieve complete deearization. so this has begun a process. it's one that's going to be a lot less tense than the confrontations we saw last year. the extent to which this is successful, depends really on careful analysis of each step and on trump being tougher towards kim jong-un than ...

We would hope, quickly getting rid of their weapons and nuclear infrastructure. leland: the president is calling this the start of a process, he says, the sit-down in singapore for june 12th. does it make sense? should there be a pro process or kim jong-un would say come in, a and-- >> if this is going to work, it's going to work as a result of a long-term process of building confidence and meeting each other's national security requirements. leland: interesting that we hear someone from the left, as you are, and someone who is as hawkish as secretary mattis, both using that term, confidence b...