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Whether that could turn the economy around? >> when you look at the jobs' numbers there's two pieces. a lot of what you're seeing in the jobs' numbers is part of patterns and trend line that is we saw last year under president obama. it's undedeniable that there's a level of confidence on wall street among some of the executives that have been meeting with the president lately that may be contributing -- chris: the confidence numbers are up. >> passing a repeal and replace of obamacare and passing tax overhaul. there's a lot of pressure on the white house to make good on those promises. when i...

Whether that could turn the economy around? >> when you look at the jobs' numbers there's two pieces. a lot of what you're seeing in the jobs' numbers is part of patterns and trend line that is we saw last year under president obama. it's undedeniable that there's a level of confidence on wall street among some of the executives that have been meeting with the president lately that may be contributing -- chris: the confidence numbers are up. >> passing a repeal and replace of obamacare and passing tax overhaul. there's a lot of pressure on the white house to make good on those promises. when i...

This has to do with what people are planning to do you see a toy your kid wants and it's like, whatever. >> in previous years they did the same poll and people had a level of confidence last year and the year before they don't have today. so that's an indication -- >> the confidence numbers go into the holiday shopping period versus the final sales from the period. later, this gallup poll says people ramp up what they're going to spend when you get closer to christmas. wal-mart is saying they expect it to be a bad holiday season because of obama cars. companies are bracing. >> this millions of...

Small business owner today. you have craziness going on, rising costs and rising taxes. it's very tough to be a small business owner. get your house in order to get a loan, it's a difficult thing. big companies seem to have an easier time at it because they can float notes and bonds to finance their inventory. >> heather: to end on a positive note. there is some good news, confidence numbers, optimism for small business owners, they rose to 94.4% in may, but the same reason as before the confidence hasn't stuck. do you think it will this time? >> i have a hard time with the confidence number. ...

Will, then it is six of one half a dozen of the other but if you think people spend their own money more whitesly this is -- wisely, this is a headwind. health you take it to the privately held businesses and the communities, and people trying to get ahead, what do they need to do? what needs to change? >> what needs to change is the tax code but that is probably not what is going to happen. what is happen this year you can see it in the retail numbers, the last two out of three months with have had less retail sales than we would have expected. they were down. this is really bad for the overa...