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Ones who are going to get hurt. joining us now the democratic congressman lloyd doggett of texas, member of the house ways and means committee. congressman doggett, thanks for being with us. you know of this. you have seen this battle before. it is the same amount of stupid every time, but it's actually, in my opinion, more dangerous now than it was the last time it happened, because of the economic circumstance that we are in because there is a danger that they're actually maybe recession this year, because we are still fighting inflation, because the interest rates are going up. this is the ...

I would like something on this democratic -- this republican to do list to be something that feels like a policy priority. but this now seems to be a thing that is going around, a vote to an impeached altria. >> yeah. it's good to be with you, ali velshi. thanks for having me on. i thought that the exchange that you played between the reporters posing a question to the speaker mccarthy was so instructive because this notion that the house republican conference would focus it's time now that it is in the majority expunging and relitigating -- from four years ago, i think, it's very revealing, i...

Santos and he often we just deny or he would blame someone else and i repeatedly heard they're coming to terms with feeling that they were defrauded or scammed by someone they trusted. in some ways it's funny, but these people actually, it wasn't funny at the time. >> are they surprised? and they shocked that he made it through an election and got elected and continues? or is it one of these things where yeah, that's george, he just sort of slides his way through life? >> i think the answer is both. i think all the people i spoke to her do not have an ax to grind, they don't have a political a...

But what your republican colleagues are doing in the house is not a good faith argument. it seems to be somewhere between a misunderstanding of what breaching the debt ceiling does and means economically, or a misunderstanding of what debt actually is, the idea that you buy things, you have to pay for them. you can't choose after that not to pay for them. i don't know what it is, but it's not actually the debate should be happening about, did we spend too much and should be spent last. >> absolutely. we need to have that debate. i'm a progressive member of congress but i'm not pay as you go pr...

Become speaker of the house did not just go at the federal level. they also court of state level and pennsylvania in 2022. democrats won control of the pennsylvania state house in the midterm elections for the first time in 12 years. it was an important repudiation of the election denier candidates running at the state and federal level in pennsylvania who championed lies about the 2020 election or actually worked to overturn the election results. for pennsylvania democrats, the margin was even narrower than the one in congress. just one single vote. should have been enough to elect the house ...