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Again, found 69 early education programs, but this time they were being administered by ten agencies instead of nine. he says congress has got to cure its, quote, scourge of overspending. >> they ought to start with congressional committees. i have never seen such duplicate work, committees are essentially task with the same goals and objective and writing expensive reports with expensive staffs that nobody reads. >> well, senator coburn would like to hear from you, i'm sure. >> i'll send him a letter. molly henneberg live in washington. thanks very much. president obama is pressing congress...

Pete olson, a republican from texas, and a member of the security -- homeland security committee and representative dutch, a democrat from maryland and a member of the house intelligence committee. gentlemen, thank you very much for talking to us. i don't know how you guys feel about this, but i am surprised that we're still talking about civilian trials here in new york city, considering the fact that critics on both sides of the aisle have opposed to civilian trials. congressman olson, is president obama fighting a losing battle here? >> the former navy man, i'd like to say the wind is in ou...

Administration's plans to close gitmo, because that is something the president has felt fashionately about since he was elected president. >> i think he felt passionate about it because of the torture, which we should not torture. there are ways to get information without torture. i give the president credit, that this is a very difficult situation. you know he wants the best for our country as it relates to national security. but i happen to disagree with where he is and i give the president credit. i understand that he is reevaluating this position that he had about trying the terrorists in ...

Terrorists, but these are terrorists who are coming after us and our country and i believe military tribunals is the best way because we will get more information. i'm on the intelligence committee. i know things some other people might not know and i believe strongly if we do the military tribunal the right way, that's where we should try them. >> so there we have it. a democrat and a republican, both believe these trials should not be held in new york. they should not be held under civilian trials. they should be held in military tribunals on a military base. the president disagrees with bot...

Feelings. he no longer thinks it's a good idea and knows it would cost too much money, not to mention security issues that could potentially cause our city. congressman olson, why do you think then, after all of this debate from both sides of the aisle, why doo you think the president is still so adamant to try to secure funding for civilian trials of these 9-11 suspects? >> i don't have a good answer for that, julie. you got the former mayor, the current mayor, you've got the governor of new york, a bipartisan group of congressmen. i'd say a majority of the members of congress who are in oppo...