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This is a grievous moral wrong. >> chris: but respectfully, sir,, let me just say but the blunt amendment wasn't just talking about catholic institutions or colleges or charities. it was saying any you know, u.s. steel, any company, any insurance company could decide not to offer birth control. >> if there was -- if -- it wasn't about birth control. it was about a moral exception to any type of mandate. it didn't specify birth control. >> chris: including birth control. any treatment. >> this is a conscience clause exception which used to be unanimously agreed to. daniel patrick monahan offere...

Trying to soften it saying we'll try to work with everyone. here is the question, though. 1200 healthcare waivers are outstanding right now. 4 million people. including the town of frisco, colorado, six states, hundreds of companies including cracker barrel, red lobster, wigly wigly, waffle house and ihop and 417 unions. you can't exempt the catholic church. >> dana: they are exempting for different reasons. not they're exempted from the conscience clause. >> eric: if you give 417 unions exemptions why can't notre dame university get an exemption? >> bob: apparently mr. carney didn't get the m...

♪ >> welcome back to "the five." we're going to move to a topic that has been gaining some steam over the week. it is that the obama white house administration, through the health and human services secretary, has decided to make religious organizations violate their conscience clause, that they are going to have to provide f.d.a. approved contraceptives to their employees and at their facilities where they work. the reason this is gaining attention is that it's unprecedented. it hasn't happened before, and archbishop timothy dolen, who has a lot of credibility, has suggested to be promoted ...

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