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Consensus choice, it looks like it might be him. does that seem like that's everybody's view? is there any chance he doesn't become the next speaker? >> yeah. i mean, look, it's house republicans, right? i wouldn't bet on them to do anything. even if they all told me they were all going to vote for kevin mccarthy, i would not believe they were going to do it until they'd actually done it even if it was 30 seconds before. i'd still say don't trust you. yeah. you know, look, mccarthy seems like he's on the track. the thing that he's got going for him is the fact that conservatives don't have a c...

I can tell if you you come from my state of oklahoma, it's much greater than 60%. it's the most conservative state in the union, as you would know. and so my obligation is to, number one, the constitution and number two to represent my constituents. this is not a hard decision. >> who are you supporting then? gohmert and yoho have put their hats in the ring? >> i have said publicly i could vote for either louis gohmert or vote for ted yoho. it really isn't so relevant who you vote for. the reality is i think we need new leadership. at the end of the day, we want to force a second round ballot....

With. secondly, she is a consensus candidate. if you compare what's going on the republican side, jeb bush, who i think is a superb candidate and was very electable, somebody who i like very much, he has had very moderate position on things like immigration, things like taxes, things like education. the question for him is will he be able to actually get the nomination given what is likely to be a civil war in the republican party where you have tea party candidates fighting tea party candidates, social conservatives fighting social conservatives, economic moderates. is there any room for econ...

Stories about him are coming from him. is he spinning this notion that he is a viable candidate? you just said you duly believe it could happen. >> i'm not saying he is a great candidate. but he is doing a good job at gathering support, even from some sunni leaders. we wrote in buzzfeed, he has got some sunni support. limited sunni support. but some people believe he is some sort of consensus candidate. now, he has no constituents on the streets of iraq. when there have been votes, when this have been elections where there is a popular vote, he has won less than 1% of the popular vote. so he s...

Got some sunni support, limited support but some people believe he's just some sort of consensus candidate. he has no constituents in the streets of iraq. when there have been votes and elections where there is a popular vote, he's won less than 1% of the popular vote. so he -- somehow but he's got the support of the saude rr esa. he has shiite collar rilerics. some believe he's one of the very few credible candidates because there are so few. it's almost as if who else could it be? >> perhaps the least bad option in politics often wins. great to have you with us, appreciate it.