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Ferguson effect. what we saw, and heather mcdonald has done a number of studies on this, great work on this, defend before the civil rights commission showing that because of these protests and the consequences of it police withdraw from active and proactive policing and sometimes the city administrations tell them to as we saw with the mayor of baltimore, the obama administration had consent decrees which change police practices so police withdrew from active policing. that consequence is profound because despite the fact that we've had decades of a decline in the crime rate, right after ferg...

What we saw is -- and heather mcdonald, the great scholar from the manhattan institute, has done a number of studies on this, great work on this, testified before the civil rights commission showing that because of these protests and the consequences, police withdraw from proactive policing and sometimes the city administrations tell them to, af baltimore, the obama administration had consent decrees which changed police practices. so police withdrew from active policing. that consequence is profound because, despite the fact that we have had decades of decline in the crime rate, right after f...

Obama's term. and the report laid out all of the ways that chicago police department has been, you know, abusing the power and engaging in misconduct and said 99 specific reforms that justice department thought needed to happen here in order to fix the police department. of course, usually those early recommendation was be kind of the foundation upon which a consent decree would ultimately be written. but like you said, once jeff sessions became attorney general, the justice department stepped back from those consent decrees and so we decided to sort of step in and say okay, well what would an...

I want sports, news and entertainment separate. like don't mix them up.nt >> kimberly: but i still eat like that. >> dana: you don't mix? >> kimberly: i don't mix it all up or mush it together. i have my little sections and i eat it and take a little bite.on >> greg: not into food mixing, eh? >> juan: jesse, here's the thing. i think that miss hill has a point when she says, for example, you look at the trump administration trying to undo consent decrees with the police departments to try to improve relations between the police in poor black communities. would you say, oh, well -- or after cha...

I want to go back -- remember those plates that you had as a kid, there were three sections. i want sports, news and entertainment separate. like don't mix them up. >> kimberly: but i still eat like that. >> dana: you don't mix? >> kimberly: i don't mix it all up or mush it together. i have my little sections and i eat it and take a little bite. >> greg: not into food mixing, eh? >> juan: jesse, here's the thing. i think that miss hill has a point when she says, for example, you look at the trump administration trying to undo consent decrees with the police departments to try to improve relati...