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>> he has some sort of gun on him under the tower, can you see him? >> he's got a gun! >> i'm worried that if you hit it on the ground, it's gone. >> whoa. [ bleep ]. >> larry: whoo, how did you get into this, chuck? >> well i worked with a number of organizations before i heard about sea shepherd. one of the people that knew me the best walked up to me one day with a sea shepherd brochure and said i think you need to know about these guys. they're passionate, aggressive, but absolutely nonviolent. and take all kind of sometimes, you know called radical actions for means of enforcing internati...

>> larry: how did you get into this, chuck? >> i worked with a number of different organizations before i heard about sea shepherd and one of the people that knew me the best walked up to me one day with a sea shepherd brochure and said i think you need to know about these guys. the more i researched, because i like to know what i'm getting involved in, you know, they're passionate, aggressive, but absolutely nonviolent, and take all kinds of sometimes rad cam actions for means of enforcing conservation laws and it's an intoxicating mix. how can you not want to be involved in that? i signed up...

The best walked up to me one day with a sea shepard brochure and said i think you need how to know about the guys. the more i researched. they're passionate, aggressive, but absolutely nonviolent. and, take all kind of sometimes, you know called radical actions for means of enforcing international conservation laws, kind of an intoxicating mix. how can you not want to be involved? i signed up and have been doing it 20 years. >> larry: how many, fiona, how many sea sheparders are there? >> we went down to antarctica with 77 individuals from 17 different nations. but, look, there is people that ...