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>> sean: it's not under another name. >> why is senator rand paul>> saying that? >> what rand paul would like to do is repeal it and then go in and try to find a 60 votes for it. you and i both know howow difficult it is 2560 votes. >> sean: you're right on reconciliation, good point, better to have 51 votes needed than 60. explain the three step and without the freedom costs it don't make caucus and thoseth senators, this bill doesn't gete passed. what you're going to do in terms of getting everybody together and making this work which mark i'd be open to coming down and doing a full on town ...

Because of the senate rules, we can't do everything we want. those things, the power gives to tom price. those bills to take 60 votes at the same time and right after. at the end, we end up the exact same place. this is the most conservative bill, repeals all the taxes. >> sean: my tires cricket, the critics they're all saying the same thing, it doesn't fully repeal it. with their kick and haven't been asking to do is go back to the 2015 bill at the same time you follow-up immediately with a replacement bill, why can't that be done? >> this is the same till we put on president obama's desk whe...

Obamacare. >> sean: is not under another name. >> why is senator rand paul saying that? >> what rand paul would like to do is repeal it and then go in and try to find a 60 votes for it. you and i both know how difficult it is 2560 votes. >> sean: you're right on reconciliation, good point, better to have 51 votes needed than 60. explain the three step and without the freedom costs it don't make caucus and those senators, this bill doesn't get past. what you're going to do in terms of getting everybody together and making this work which mark i'd be open to coming down and doing a full on town ...

Can't do everything we want. those things administratively gives power to tom price. those bills to take 60 votes at the same time and right after. at the end, we end up the exact same place. this is the most conservative bill, repeals all the taxes. >> sean: there are three phases to to to this. the critics -- they are all saying the same thing that it doesn't fully repeal it. what they are asking and have been asking to do is go back to the 2015 bill which was a full repeal, at the same time he follow up immediately with a replacement bill. why can't that be done? >> this is the same bill we...

This is the new entitlement program and it's just bad all around. i mean, there are a few good things about it. we shouldn't replace one entitlement program with another. it's not a republican conservative bill. >> sandra: okay. so is it off the cuff remark, is that something you're walking back at this point, to be clear? >> no. it's still a stinking pile of garbage. >> sandra: all right. so let's get into the details of this. there are many provisions you say to this bill that you find objectionable. >> yeah. >> sandra: what mostly? >> the most objectionable thing are the monthly advance ref...