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The role? >> there were so many surprises. i mean, so many surprises. she really is held up as a conservative icon in many -- to many people. and together with president reagan, credited with bringing down the berlin wall. all of that and also making an approach to the soviet union to talk to just make -- to try to figure out how to talk to people. so one of the surprises that i had about her is she never -- she was a scientist. she was a chemist by training. she went to oxford in chemistry. she was an early proponent of the idea of global warming. early warning about it. was very -- that surp...

Surprises. i mean, so many surprises. she really is held up as a conservative icon in many -- to many people. and together with president reagan, credited with bringing down the berlin wall. all of that and also making an approach to the soviet union to talk to just make -- to try to figure out how to talk to people. so one of the surprises that i had about her is she never -- she was a scientist. she was a chemist by training. she went to oxford in chemistry. she was an early proponent of the idea of global warming. early warning about it. was very -- that surprised me. she also never touched...

Surprises, and i mean, so many surprises, she, she really is held up as a conservative icon, in many, and to many people, and together with president reagan, credited with bringing down the berlin wall and all of that, and also making an approach to the soviet union, to talk. to just make, try to figure out how to talk to people. and so one of the surprises that i had about her was that she never-- she was a scientist. she was a chemist by training, she went to oxford and chemistry, and she was an early proponent of the idea of early global warming, early warning about it, was very-- that surp...

Then looks back on her remarkable career and some critics thought that was unfair. i personally thought that it made me appreciate her more because this remarkable figure, iconic, historic person, is also very real and very human. >> that's right, i think we send to, especially with political figures, reduce them to either villains, or saints. now? and people are people. we're all many fast setted and we have lots of different, different sides to us and the truth is always so much more interesting, nuanced and complicated. that's what we were after. >> it you have some maybe preconceptions of ...

Tonight. a man whose message has been admired by conservative icon william f. buckley, dick armey and, guess who. mitt romney's own dad. plus, the more newt and mitt duke it out. he has a new spring in his step. one reason why is the fight we're all watching on the right. and newt gets an endorsement he can do without from prison from as we say, inside. and that's in the side show tonight. we begin with mitt romney's strong debate performance on cnn. howard fineman is a political analyst. and susan page is the washington bureau chief. howard, let's look at the polls out today that show the r...