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American enterprise institute who wrote an op-ed for "the new york times" making the conservative case for obamacare. welcome to the show, j.d. >> thank you. good to be here. >> you write in your op-ed, quote, the architecture is based on conservative, not liberal ideas about individual responsibility and the power of market forces. the mandate is about personal responsibility, a hallmark of conservative thought. so why are conservatives against a conservative idea? help me make sense of this. is it just a desire to never do anything to help the president even if it means turning your back on ...

That doesn't mean that you can't shop for health insurance in other states as well. but again, have that debate. engage in that debate. mitt romney just hasn't seemed to be able to stay with it. in fact, joe, he hasn't seemed to be able to stay with any message consistently. and i think that's what's killing him right now and why he's not breaking through to swing voters. >> well, you know, a couple of weeks ago i wrote that it's hard to debate effectively when you're biting your tongue and swallowing your pride. and that's what's been going on. with romney. it really -- you know, this is a gu...

>> this is a time of choice for the american people. our mission is clear. if we want to get rid of obama care, we're going to have to replace president obama. >> this change of heart on health care surprises jonathan gruber, the m.i.t. economist who worked with governor romney on that health care reform bill. romney even gave gruber an inscribed picture of the bill signing. >> there is no explanation but pure partisan politics for this. there's none because look at it, this was a conservative idea. it's only because the democratic president endorsed and passed it that now it's the devil's wor...

Care, we're going to have to replace president obama. >> this change of heart on health care surprises jonathan gruber, the m.i.t. economist who worked with governor romney on that health care reform bill. romney even gave gruber an inscribed picture of the bill signing. >> there is no explanation but pure partisan politics for this. there's none because look at it, this was a conservative idea. it's only because the democratic president endorsed and passed it that now it's the devil's work. there is no other explanation. >> as president, i'll treat our allies and friends like our friends and ...

Care, we're going to have to replace president obama. >> this change of heart on health care surprises jonathan gruber, the m.i.t. economist who worked with governor romney on that health care reform bill. romney even gave gruber an inscribed picture of the bill signing. >> there is no explanation but pure partisan politics for this. there's none because look at it, this was a conservative idea. it's only because the democratic president endorsed and passed it that now it's the devil's work. there is no other explanation. >> as president, i'll treat our allies and friends like our friends and ...