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So it's not -- it's republicans, it's democrats. it's incestuous within the system. >> how much does our obsession, the media's obsession and our own individual obsessions with how we are different -- you're different than me. you're a conservative texas judge and i'm a liberal hillbilly from upstate new york or whatever it is, and i look for all the differences. how much is our obsession with those differences preventing us from recognizing the incredibly shared common interest that you and i and every other person in this country have. >> here's an example. i write about it in the book. the ...

State judge in texas history, which is saying something. an award-winning journalist as well with an emmy. i consider being on the judicial -- the judge in texas. that's when they knew you were something to deal with. >> got to watch out, darling. watch out. >> listen, we knowç the story. i'm interested. the book is entitled "patriot acts." and you say, what america must do to save the republic. so this is an empowering view of the issues. i'm interested in how you're seeking to direct my energy and everybody else's energy as we confront these issues. >> well, you have taken the biggest step...

Outrageous cost of paying for college means that this isn't just a bunch of crazy hippies banging drums, it's a wide swath of america, including america's heroes, saying something is wrong. you want to really treat our men and women in uniform like heroes? i suggest we start by listening to them. get well soon, scott olsen. >> i just had a conversation, david, with catherine crier, who was discussing the need for all of us -- she's, again, originally the youngest judge in texas, okay? >> right. >> and was discussing the need for all of us in this country to expand and reach out to one another,...

Of course they lost their only, one and only republican partner in lindsey graham. i think it puts both parties in a tough spot. republicans are in danger of going back to the 2007 image they had of being anti-hispanic and democrats in danger of really disappointing an extremely important part of the base. >> chris: to go back to the substance of what was passed, it is not just as we saw with marco rubio, conservative texas governor rick perry said this week, it would not be the right direction for texas. former florida governor jeb bush said, i don't think this is the proper approach. >> we h...

Of course they lost their only, one and only republican partner in lindsey graham. i think it puts both parties in a tough spot. republicans are in danger of going back to the 2007 image they had of being anti-hispanic and democrats in danger of really disappointing an extremely important part of the base. >> chris: to go back to the substance of what was passed, it is not just as we saw with marco rubio, conservative texas governor rick perry said this week, it would not be the right direction for texas. former florida governor jeb bush said, i don't think this is the proper approach. >> we h...