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Voting record when it comes to turnout, 170,000 members. they're an organization of 130 years. they went down to arkansas recently and got mark pryor to sign on as a co-sponsor of the paycheck fairness act. i want both of your reaction to this. is this a winning issue at the polls? is this going to motivate women to say, hey, look, republicans, independents, conservatives aren't doing it for me? they're not the warriors for the women on this when it comes to pay? what do you think, zerlina? >> yes, because there are 400,000 reasons why. 400,000 is the number of lifetime earnings that women are...

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Those people were already insured, so you're not talking about getting new people onto the plan. >> how many net winners and how many net losers? we know that there are millions of people thrown off their health care and they may have gone on the exchanges and got a policy. how happy are they with it? do they like what they've got? >> if you only look at the enrollment figure, you miss the question of how many of them are previously uninsured? you have to multibibby about 80% will be the number that pay. >> since we don't know what the numbers mean and the rollout has been rather disastrous, t...