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There was an exert published that -- you were fired in the campaign but you were credited with knowing him longer and better than anyone else except omarosa, came back in the fold and said "he's just an effing fool." if he was an effing fool, why did you help get him elected president? >> joy, first of all, donald trump -- and i've been thinking about this because i've had a lot of interviews -- it's not that he doesn't know what he doesn't know, it's that he knows what he doesn't know but he doesn't care. >> he doesn't care that he doesn't know. >> and he was right in terms of the campaign wh...

Nunberg joins me now. there was an exert published that -- you were fired in the campaign but you were credited with knowing him longer and better than anyone else except omarosa, came back in the fold and said "he's just an effing fool." if he was an effing fool, why did you help get him elected president? >> joy, first of all, donald trump -- and i've been thinking about this because i've had a lot of interviews -- it's not that he doesn't know what he doesn't know, it's that he knows what he doesn't know but he doesn't care. >> he doesn't care that he doesn't know. >> and he was right in te...

>> he's here. >> over here! >> get him out! the 20-year-old managed to lift his ski pole before being completely covered. tucker, over to you. >> thanks, anna. a veteran maryland cop admits to state lawmakers he was wrong on a major constitution issue. >> these crazy people the second amendment activists will want these. they'll want the permit. it will be scary. when i met them. they schooled me. they not only schooled me. they embarrassed me. they humbled me. he was wrong. >> during his years with the maryland state police, retired officer was responsible for issuing concealed carry permit...

Conversations? is it an invasion of your privacy as it relates to your telephone records? >> certainly that's the argument matt and the class are going to make, that there is an invasion of privacy with regard to this information. that's number one. number two, you have the constitution issue, there's also a stat to hutory issue. i think it's a constitutional issue but a statutory one as well. and there's got to be a connection between the data you're gathering and what you're trying to prevent. what's happening here is as this nsa program has expanded since the patriotic days, it's gone beyon...

Conversations? is it an invasion of your privacy as it relates to your telephone records? >> certainly that's the argument matt and the class are going to make, that there is an invasion of privacy with regard to this information. that's number one. number two, you have the constitution issue, there's also a stat to hutory issue. i think it's a constitutional issue but a statutory one as well. and there's got to be a connection between the data you're gathering and what you're trying to prevent. what's happening here is as this nsa program has expanded since the patriotic days, it's gone beyon...