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Constitution itself, look to the president of law to make their decisions. not there party or not even their particular relationship with the executive leadership. >> well, that's what they have to do. they have to follow the law. roberts is a perfect example of that because he has come down 4, and he has come down against trump. for republicans, he has come down against republicans. he is clearly -- neil gorsuch is the same way. he has not been 100% with republican thought process, with republican philosophy. the same could be said about justice ginsberg and a sonia sotomayor. justice scalia,...

Culture war of american politics. i was born the year of watergate. bork 15 years later, clinton ten years later, kavanaugh and trump, you know, we are just -- has this just been one long -- it seems to be, that's the argument, we're in one long war here. >> chuck, i was born 30 years earlier, long before the culture war and it was great. the -- let me say that the carings that we've had, especially the first part of the hearings, where we actually talked about substance, rather than sex, what were brought out how deeply divided, once again, how deeply divided we are as a nation not simply abo...

Complicit in evil if you have anything to do with judge kavanaugh. it could get crazy. they have forwarded the 911 records for his house hoping to find something. they found his car had been stolen a few years ago. they're going low. on the other hand, i think that judge kavanaugh is someone that is so articulate, so even-handed. so thoughtful in his opinions. i'm looking forward to the american people get to see him for who he is and getting him to have the opportunity to talk about his dozen years on the court, all of the many opinions he's authored. i think we'll get a civics lesson like wi...

>> the question of the constitution itself, should it be interpreted strictly? >> there are different methods of interpreting the constitution. i think what's important is a judge takes that responsibility seriously. and understands that what she's doing is interpreting the constitution and the laws and not imposing her own personal preferences on the law. and judge barrett, for example, in her seventh circuit confirmation hearing, was very clear that whatever her personal beliefs are, don't have a bearing on her per gormanforman judge. >> thank you very much. enjoyed our conversation. >> than...

Me. >> let me get that on the other side. richard blumenthal who was a prosecutor and is now a senator from connecticut was making your point. i want to see if your point is the same as his. let's play it from earlier this morning here on this network. -- we don't have that? okay. well, basically, he did argue -- he argued that this absolutely could happen. that -- and he also made the argument that the reason not to indict is based to an precedent that's 45 years old and could perhaps be looked at differently. >> there is no precedent. the only thing you have is two opinions from the legal co...