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The constitution which, of course, is well and fine. but the reality about the group is that what it is really about is the fear that martial law is about to be imposed. that americans are about to be herded into concentration camps. that foreign troops are going to be put down on american soil. the oath keeper says specifically we will not obey these orders. we will refuse orders to put americans in concentration camps. now, is that dangerous? it seems to me the danger is is that these are men and women, in the case of police officers, who are given a real power over the rest of us, sometimes...

The constitution which, of course, is well and fine. but the reality about the group is that what it is really about is the fear that martial law is about to be imposed. that americans are about to be herded into concentration camps. that foreign troops are going to be put down on american soil. the oath keeper says specifically we will not obey these orders. we will refuse orders to put americans in concentration camps. now, is that dangerous? it seems to me the danger is is that these are men and women, in the case of police officers, who are given a real power over the rest of us, sometimes...

>>neil: but you don't think you are young? >>guest: i get older every day. >>neil: there we go. let me switch gears, blessedly in your eyes, there is a move afoot in congress, arizona republican congressman wants to slap down the president's new immigration bypass of congress by blocking the president's move for deportations up to 800,000 young children of illegals. do you support that? >>guest: there is a growing consensus we have to help kids like that who are in this situation through no fault of their own but not in a way that encourages illegal immigration in the future. and, that is the ...