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That, but it's also occasionally a source of information for the fbi and for law enforcement to save american lives. >> deb, at the other end of this story, the other consumer end where it affects your beat, how crazy did it get this morning? in effect, what did the president do with his cell phone in hand? >> well, covering surveillance law is a pretty tedious job in most days, but not so today. the intel community, the fbi director, the head of the nsa, the cia director, they have all been out in public on a full core press trying to push this bill through. they wanted to push their version ...

Using the authority of 702 to monitor a real bad guy, someone affiliated with al qaeda overseas which led us to a man in denver, fella named zasi whose intent was to blow up the new york city subway system. so, not only is it a source of information for the president in his daily briefing when he takes that, but it's also occasionally a source of information for the fbi and for law enforcement to save american lives. >> deb, at the other end of this story, the other consumer end where it affects your beat, how crazy did it get this morning? in effect, what did the president do with his cell ph...

Consumer end of intelligence does this have ac chilling effect? are people going to be less forthcoming about sources and methods until this gets sorted out. >> i think it really it could go two directions. across the intelligence community, one i'm sure they are insulted that no matter what they put forth it's not being seen as evidence or being trusted. i think that's the big thing. then at that point you are also going in wondering how much should i reveal? or how much should i push? am i going to have my back covered by my superiors? oftentimes nominees of president trump? and what level d...

Taxpayers are subs digs is the trump kids' travel to do business in the middle east. at some point, some one will catch the attention of a judge. there will be an injunction and ruling. then there will be traction. but for the moment, the only person with standing to do this would have been north stram, they aren't going down the road. >> stephanie, don't know how to put this. you guys have a foot in the news world and a foot in the business news world. it is interesting to hear some one say, he is going to roll back regulation. tonight, at to meetings, signs are fears, consumer end, citizen e...

Myriad conflict of interests. right? >> screaming some where right now. >> those two are trying, they're working hard with the groups they're working with. but of the fact is no one has gained traction on this yet. there is the trump trademark in china. there is the fact that the, the taxpayers are subs digs is the trump kids' travel to do business in the middle east. at some point, some one will catch the attention of a judge. there will be an injunction and ruling. then there will be traction. but for the moment, the only person with standing to do this would have been north stram, they aren...