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That's twhar arguing about, but the whole point was, in fact, people are running guns and buying them, quote, legally as strawmen and shuttling them through and they're committing crimes. >> no one is doing anything about it. that's the problem. this is why the party is an issue. we had a conversation about this in the green room. we could talk to each other civilly. "the new york times" had a great editorial about it today. why can't the two sides get together and resolve this? why get to this stage? why did the republicans make this a contempt issue? >> there's a lack of leadership on darr...

About it. that's the problem. this is why the party is an issue. we had a conversation about this in the green room. we could talk to each other civilly. "the new york times" had a great editorial about it today. why can't the two sides get together and resolve this? why get to this stage? why did the republicans make this a contempt issue? >> there's a lack of leadership on darrell issa's part. he doesn't bring in key players to testify in front the committee. whole mess has turned out to be right now. that's not why the attorney general is being held in contempt. we have to get that issue....

Contempt issue is surrounding what happened creating that february 4th letter, which was less than two months after the instigating event. >> keith, what about that? what about the timing of this, and, of course, nancy pelosi says today she thinks it's because he did a good job going after the voter purge? >> this is about getting holder and embarrassing barack obama. not smooch about fast and furious, susan agreed and katherine pointed out they could have done other things to purr stew that. you had an instance where one atf agents testified at this hearing not long ago, a year ago. when you ...

Also warrant, lie to or misled originally, they wouldn't have gotten to this situation. >> in less than two months -- >> five months before the election. >> over christmas is when this con stern nation and the only thing being debated in the contempt issue is surrounding what happened creating that february 4th letter, which was less than two months after the instigating event. >> keith, what about that? what about the timing of this, and, of course, nancy pelosi says today she thinks it's because he did a good job going after the voter purge? >> this is about getting holder and embarrassing b...

>> in less than two months -- >> five months before the election. >> over christmas is when this con stern nation and the only thing being debated in the contempt issue is surrounding what happened creating that february 4th letter, which was less than two months after the instigating event. >> keith, what about that? what about the timing of this, and, of course, nancy pelosi says today she thinks it's because he did a good job going after the voter purge? >> this is about getting holder and embarrassing barack obama. not smooch about fast and furious, susan agreed and katherine pointed out t...