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Situation. it is completely unacceptable after the last one. you know, it was for the third or fourth. >> in terms of making their case to the president based on your experience and folks you're talking with there in washington how much is the human president being looked at? the contract workers were also impacted by the shutdown. that is at the forefront for a lot of americans when they look at what's happening there in washington. a lot of americans are political pawns in all of this. does that come into play in the discussions you you think? >> yes. it does. there are absolute human impact...

Bipartisan effort to make that happen >> there's been some discussion of legislation to permanently end government shutdowns do you think that's realistic >> that's one of the issues this we went to put in to the discussion here. we think we should pass legislation so president trump can no longer hold the american people hostage as a tool to get what he wants. so we are hopeful that we'll get some support the republicans have also joined us in this effort to stop any further opportunities for the president to shut down government >> would you prefer to see the president declare a national eme...

Small businesses, many no longer in business, service contract workers have not yet been made whole and may never be made whole. no, don't shut down the government as far as border security, let's talk about what's reasonable to protect our southern border. democrats and republicans are willing to work with the president and the experts on border security to do what's necessary. >> let's turn now to russia sanctions. there's news tonight that the trump administration has succeeded in lifting the sanctions against oleg deripaska. your reaction, congressman, to try to stop this >> this is terrib...

Rates again. the economic activity from furloughed workers and contract employees is a huge loss that slow down in spending will have longer-term ripple effects that can't be caught up or recovered even during the temporary reopening of the government it is very important to note that furloughed contract workers are not going to get any back pay. >> yeah. >> financially speaking, they're not going to get back on their feet any time soon so for the workers who were impacted, some may see their credit scores take a hit their credit scores. let me tell you when your credit score takes a hit, that...

Will you give me? he said not a penny. it's up to pelosi to say i'll meet you somewhere. if her answer is no money for wall i don't care how much you give us, which is what she told the president, then i think we are going to be either back with another shut down or more likely an emergency declaration. >> if the president started all of this in the first place we wouldn't be here if we hadn't done this. the speaker showed herself more than capable of president trump. it is not just about that. it should be about the 800,000 workers, federal employees and contract workers who lost pay while pe...