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I mean, first of all who picked this contractor? who's been moring toing the outlay and said that they could have this kind of money to spend? who's taking care of this? >> she said that she's in charge. >> where did she get the money from congress? >> through aappropriations. they have reprogrammed and put money together and they have all of this under contract. this is when they run over the budgets and now she's decided to call on the inspector general to investigate her and to investigate this contracting process. and i ask her point-blank, i said are you going to make the contractors pay ...

Nature of the contracts. did they promise to deliver a particular product within a particular period of time at a particular cost where they could do cost overruns? >> these are all things that should be looked into. again, if it could be done in a fairly nonpartisan way, which i don't nurture much hopes of, but could be. these are questions that should be asked and deserve answers. it goes way beyond. this i the government contracting process. >> don't get me started on that. it's a nightmare. there is not much appetite to clean that up. it goes across almost every agency. all right. when sho...

>> extraordinarily, it sounds like the government contracting process was not used for this particular company. the contract was awarded to an american subsidiary of a canadian company with a very spotty past with i.t. big question is why did they wind up with the contract worth maybe billions of dollars? >> it was $93 million that they spent. someone who is not happy about it, robert gibbs, former white house press secretary. listen to this. >> is excruciatingly embarrassing for the white house and for the department of health and human services. this was bungled badly. this is not a server p...