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To accept that and understand that, but i do believe there will be a time where they will stop the search. >> cnn's richard quest has been analyzing this report, looking through it, and he indicates there was a massive failure between civilian and military radar and air traffic control. is that your analysis as well? >> joe, that is so critical. richard hit it right on the head with that, because that 17-minute period in which the aircraft had been handed off from one control area to the other, it should have been no more than five minutes of no contact. but there were 17 minutes and during th...

Moment. because this is just the hard to control area, by the rebels, they didn't allow the government officials to access the area tonight. and although the team brokered some kind of deal with the rebels to access the area, the crash site was already raided by rebels and by locals. and with the investigation, this site, you can call it a dirty investigation site. even the investigators, if they will be allowed there possibly they will find little untouched details of that crash, and it could damage the investigation process a lot. >> maxim, a freelance journalist in kiev, thank you for joini...

Bloody war of attrition fuelled by religious hatred. >> we have the sunnis stretching in an a rc in much of iraq and syria and borders don't so many to mean much. is this a permanently redrawn map of the middle east? it looks that way and it is dangerous to us as well. if you are going to build a viable terrorist organization that is going to threaten nations overseas. you need a sachthuary and money and you need enteleyeaps and you need the ability to transport terrorist overseas using foreign passports and if you look at what the sony area is starting to shape out to be. all of those five el...

Was, then we would naturally expect it to go right down over here but it took a turn here. so this is their first hint that something unusual is happening. if it goes past that point from this turn out here, again, you find yourself saying it would keep going this way naturally, but instead another turn occurred and this turn took it right around the tip of sumatra up here. this area right there is where the airport is. would it be just beyond the control area of that airport? yes. whether it's beyond their radar sweep, technically it probably shouldn't be but they say they didn't see anything...

Will say, so and so 170 flight level 230 roger or whatever else. or give the frequency that he's been asked to change to and once he says that frequency, then he can be acknowledged on the ground and make sure he has the right frequency if they're going to have to change. i agree that it's out of the protocol, but i'm not sure that it wasn't just somebody that was really casual. >> yeah, i mean this guy was suggesting that they do some sort of voice recognition. david soucie, what do you think, "all right, good night," is that how they talk to each other? >> well, jim's right. technically what...