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That barbara was a full participant in this, what i can prove is totally different. >> so you made an offer? >> we made an offer. >> barbara was offered two more years of house arrest and eight years of probation. she would avoid trial, but she had to plead guilty to accessory after the fact in david's murder. meaning she acknowledged knowing about the crime but only after it occurred, something she'd always denied. >> you've got to remember i had the option to go to trial and take it. it's just taking a chance for 12 to 14 -- >> other jurors who would hear a story about a control freak who ve...

Experience, you know, earlier legal proceedings like that or other instances of wrongdoing typically take place before federal prosecutors bear down on you. >> natasha, i want to give a final question to you, kind of the most obvious. if you step back from the legal lease, it seems that the trump organization was a very sloppy place with piles of money going to different trump-related issues, problems, and goals. and i wonder if at the end of the day we have a working theory of why that was, because it certainly was trying to solve problems in mr. cohen's case, probably in trump's as well, mad...

Actually carry out this murder. and what he wanted to do was have the ranch hand tortured so he can actually tell his cellmate -- or tell the hit man where the other two individuals were. >> prosecutors say the price tag for pam fayed's killing was $25,000. >> he was bankrolling it. >> no question. he commissioned this crime. and that's where the investigation began to lead us. that's where the evidence began to lead us. we knew clearly that he had an alibi for the actual stabbing. he's not the stabber. he's not the actual killer. >> you also knew he had probably a bigger motive than anybody e...

Not want bad stories about him to being out there and just be very much a control freak when it comes to what is published, but it is really interesting hearing the "national enquirer" say that in a onthat into the oy was there is a safe in new york, but a safe in l.a. so it really does raise questions about what else was buried and killed. >> we have two months until michael cohen returns to be sentenced. one of the things you've been focused on is this nuclear power deal and the quasi lobbying cohen was doing about that. and again details about payment to a qui tar qatarian swrid ind.

I agree very much with dan's analysis the dynamics have been changed. donald trump is a control freak in many ways. he wants to control everything he controlled this epic battle month after month. he alone had the platform and mueller couldn't speak. we talked about that before. mueller had a chance to speak in courtrooms. trump is losing control of the narrative and mueller is taking it away from him. you can see it in a fox poll fascinating. in july, you ask americans if they approve or disapprove. in fox poll, 48 approve, 40 disapprove. today, this week, 59% approve, it's gone from 48 to 59...