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Integrity, a public servant, career public servant stand up and take control of a situation that he was losing control of. the talk of public testimony, congressional senate hearings, house hearings, he decided enough was enough. he was going to speak. people who know mueller know that this was both typical mueller and a-typical because today he publicly although in a measured fashion rebuked his boss. that's very atypical for mueller. what was typical today is the measured tone, the sticking to the facts and not becoming the story himself. the take away for me with regard to the attorney gene...

Thank you, thank you for being here today. >> sir -- >> no questions. >> and with that, about nine and a half minutes, he was gone. let's get to our lead-off discussion on a wednesday night. frank figliuzzi who worked for robert mueller. jeremy robash, former chief of staff at cia and the pentagon, former chief counsel for the house intel committee. katie benner, justice department reporter for "the new york times," and philip rucker, pulitzer prize winning bureau chief for "the washington post." thank you all for being on our broadcast tonight. frank, i'd like to begin with you. for the long ...

Here today. no questions. >> with that, about nine and a half minutes, he was gone. let's get to our lead off discussion on a wednesday night. former fbi assistant director for counter intelligence who worked of course for robert mueller and jeremy bash, former chief of staff at cia and the pentagon, former chief counsel for the house intel committee. katy benner, justice department reporter for "the new york times" and phillip rutker, thank you-all for being on our broadcast tonight. frank, i'd like to begin with you. for the long view, what is it we have just witnessed? >> we saw a man of gr...

Show they're pulling them back. do you think that was a legitimate concern or it was hyped? >> no, i think the thing is -- and something that the viewers need to know -- there are two the navies in iran, two armies. one is the irgc. their forces, and the other ones are the, what we'll call the straight leg or the forces that are under the control of, the military control, not control of the mullahs. the irgc is under the control of the mullahs. they are ones of that have the small boat, do the small boat swarms that you're talking about. and i think what's happened is that the irgc leadership ...

Inabilities. oh, he can't do that. on the phone, hold on. no, can't do that either. like they knew what they were dealing with and still wanted to th them in the fire. >> ed: going to college is about the kid. they got so obsessed with getting them in. >> control of, i'm so powerful, i'm so great and my kids are great. maybe you should have some real life experiences. not protect them from everything and you controlled everything and now you have children who can't get into college and you pay for it. that's embarrassing and wrong. i know we're laughing about it because of the hypocrisy. >> ed...