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>> i would say that the personality doesn't matter as much as what the russians wanted it to do. although, in the case of the most recent phase of the wagner group's history in ukraine, they're the person, and the fact that he was on the ground with his forces and angrily denouncing the russian military for not spending enough ammunition and then accusing them of attacking the forces. he was standing up in the field with his troops. i, mean that is a rare russian leader. we don't see that on the part of the russian military commanders. i think prigozhin's men now expect that. and i don't know ...

Frankly, even strong russia watchers, guys like -- we're saying at the very beginning he's done. but he, this is not going to end well. it will end quickly and i don't think they think it would go the way it did marching to moscow having some deal and leaving the country. i'm just like the rest of you watching and listening to experts who know more than i do about wagner and russian eternal politics and everybody is saying, you know his future is probably done in russia. the more important question to me, the issue to me, then what? we've heard and we've been told that the beginning of this wa...

We've seen more and more wagner was interesting to me it was watching yesterday's events unfold when realizing that there are russians in the streets chairing and bringing food and water to wagner mercenaries. i was trying to imagine could do a magic and a black water mercenary group on its way to washington d.c.. a certain group of americans along the way. because, the government forces were, whatever reason, they are corrupt, it's so messy. it's so hard to protect. it's definitely not as a global security, it's not what any supporting expert wants. the russia is supposed to be a stable state...