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It gave no means of tracing this back to the source, but it had a lot of information in it about things that had been happening in trump tower. And it appeared to be from somebody inside the transition or inside trump tower who was concerned about what this person was seeing. And a lot of whats written or conveyed in this letter has sort of come become true over time. Its taken a while for a lot of this stuff to surface, including this detail about this discussion over a back channel or a private channel of communications with moscow. Again i just want to im trying to sort of bend over to read...

Work for lockheed and don, what everyone else did. you didn't, which is the more noble path, i would say, but you didn't have any money, how much do you think in the end you spent on legal defense? >> i would say -- i'm going to swear on your show, because it was pain but i will say that because it's more than the finances, but you know, it's from my -- selling my home, going through the incredible levels of embarrassment that you do go through that, you know, it's humbling experience, but i was really strengthened by our faith. i mean, it's in the millions, it's definitely in the millions. it...

You didn't, which is the more noble path, i would say, but you didn't have any money, how much do you think in the end you spent on legal defense? >> i would say -- i'm going to swear on your show, because it was pain but i will say that because it's more than the finances, but you know, it's from my -- selling my home, going through the incredible levels of embarrassment that you do go through that, you know, it's humbling experience, but ie was really strengthened by our faith. i mean, it's in the millions, it's definitely in the millions. it ranges between four and $8 million. >> tucker: th...

Between election and inauguration when one government is fully and 100% in control, but it's leaving, and another team is -- has no control whatsoever, but it will on january 20 at noon take full responsibility for everything that happens. >> let me ask one more question. malcolm, i want to come back to you on that. but let me just follow up one thing because you wrote, you know, part of the subtext here is that, you know, this candidate, candidate trump, was quite clearly more disposed to be pro-putin and pro-russia and that we should get along with russia and that was a public policy stance ...

Inauguration when one government is fully and 100% in control, but it's leaving, and another team is -- has no control whatsoever, but it will on january 20 at noon take full responsibility for everything that happens. >> let me ask one more question. malcolm, i want to come back to you on that. but let me just follow up one thing because you wrote, you know, part of the subtext here is that, you know, this candidate, candidate trump, was quite clearly more disposed to be pro-putin and pro-russia and that we should get along with russia and that was a public policy stance he took while the rus...