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On the forefront of this issue? because race is an ignitingish hue in this america. >> welsh it's igniting, but one that america has been very reluctant to have a conversation about it. >> i think vilsack should think about resigning since he wants to force people to resign because his judgment was really poor. >> she has devote the her life -- >> she is the rosa parks of cable news journalism perhaps and the person who could usher in thisç new wave of transparey and accountability. >> she is today, that's for sure. >> do you think secretary vilsack should be looked at to possibly resign? or...

>> and in questions about why this happened so quickly, you say a lot of this is frenzy that people react quickly without getting the facts. but part of the reason why people reacted so quickly, i think, at the end of the day is because this is about race. why do you think this issue of race remains so inflammatory? and what does the president say about how to handle it? does he express frustration when this sort of thing happens? >> you know this, i know this, everybody knows this. race has been a topic of discussion for a long, long time in this country. a war was fought about it. a movement...

Aspect, but the second is they didn't have a lot of new information toe offer. they didn't necessarily say they were offering her her job back. clearly they were hoping that secretary vilsack would have already reach her and that would have been something they would been able to announce. the other fascinating fact is who robert gibbs did not go after. he basically lumped everybody and said everybody is at fault here. the government, the white house, the secretary, the department of agriculture, the media in general. and the second thing was this continued basically ducking of this cob ver sag...

Just simply say look, we screwed up, we messed you were, we ee e. they have to say we are going to take the initiative on this,ç we're not going to buck pass. i think the second thing, still there's still kind of a duck and a dodge. the bottom line is, the woman was wronged. bottom line, a horrible decision was made. conservative media dydek tate the flow, in this case, about how a decision was made a bad decision as it turned out, and by bob gibbs, and personally, i think by extension, the white house not exactly and not directly addressing that, i think still begs the question, the bigger ...

Administration of not being able to embrace race with the historic nature of this presidency, but yet again you say you're embracing be but you react without getting all the facts on these two incidents of race. >> i'm not up here to make excuses for actually quite the contrary on what has happened in this case. i think many involved at all levels believe rightly that not all information was gotten. i think rectifying that is tremendously important forrern. >> do you think these issues have been hijacked? >> no.