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Would hope, at least they should be about at least what they're talking about. joining me now is eric walert, senior fellow at media matters and msnbc contributor goldie taylor. thank you both for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> goldie, they mock the conversation but have no credibility on race issues. what's your reaction? >> you know, it harkens back to less dramatics who bill o'reilly reminds me of. said that he was divisive and bad for america. so we're hearing the same rhetoric play itself out today. i think that it's unfortunate, really, that we're at a time in this country where we...

It is not like you can hold the boston police responsible. yes, we want to take all of the cautions that we can but we cannot allow our selves to have every tragedy where there is no significant evidence of negligence and then use that as a way to indict whoever happens to be in authority at that time. >> congressman peter welch, thanks for your time. >> thank you. >> i want to bring in former chief doj spokesman matt miller. he was top aid to attorney general eric holder dr. congressman in the gun sting known as fast and furious. matt, it really bothers me that some democrats and pundits have...

Lawmakers alike. >> gretchen: and joining us for the goal behind the billboard campaign and the leader of the big board campaign. good morning. >> good morning. >> gretchen: what do you hope to get out of the billboards? what's the message? >> we want the national debate back to the main issues facing our country, the economy, jobs and government spending, which is basically holding the economy back. so, we've been talking a lot about gas, we've been talking a lot about issues that really aren't what this election is about and these billboards are meant to drive that conversation back by build...

>>guest: you are looking at a device. the key issue, does the person know, the person who is driving? and if you look at this, the case we are talking about, there was a conversation back-and-forth, and i think that she knew. >>eric: association using the example, if she was in the back seat or the passenger seat and texted him she should be liable in your opinion? >> right and even if she was no the car. >> but you have a conversation teen two people in a car and that can be distracting. >>eric: you say look at that. look at this. that is taking it way too far. the response belt has to be on ...

Way similar, because of the fact that the tahinking of this mr. zimmerman and the people who ki killed my son, i can't relate it is the same, because in their head, they never talk about amidou and trayvon martins as normal guys walking down and doing their own business. they just think about that there might be a criminals or s suspicious or doing something wrong in the neighborhood. that is wrong. i think that this is the time for the country to come together and for us to seize this opportunity and the unfortunate senseless killing of the young males in this past decades has traumatized man...