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Jon: so president trump is, you know, the most powerful man in the world, chairman kim runs one of the poorest countries in the world, how does it benefit the united states for kim to show up for this photo-op? >> well, i think ultimately this is an improvement of where we have been with north korea in so far as a conversation being had, although they are doing some missile testing, most of active agration were abated and the president continuing conversation and clearly putting sanctions on north korea that have really brought them to the table in the first place, i think the white house sees...

Breakthrough -- the kind of breakthrough that has eluded the united states and the world community for more than 20 year years. >> a breakthrough is an understatement. the somebody asked the president last night commode do you see yourself going to pyongyang? anything seems possible. that is quite incredible to hear that conversation being had. >> look, all of this is remarkable signs of progress. i think we still have to be very wary about this. the reason i'm so weary is because i've seen north korea enter into agreements before it to denuclearize, get rid of nuclear weapons, get rid of thei...

The left have a platform problem here as we move towards november, here to debate that conservative radio talk show host dr. jina and kathy, thank you for getting up early today. i want to start with a question i will pose to both of you and i will start with you, kathy, i think there's a conversation being had amongst democrats i would assume about what direction to go here, do they want to come back towards the middle or do they wanting to dead left betting that trump is to unpopular they can win that way, how do you think they will try to win in november? >> i don't know, i think they will ...

Even if i had, it wasn't a problem, but he didn't say it that way. it didn't come out that way. >> marie: but it may be a problem, though. >> sandra: the idea that has been put out, that things are starting to wrap up. to your point, it looks like this is widening, at this point. >> sean: i don't think the house intelligence investigation is widening or focusing on donald trump. i think that's investigation is petering out. back channels are not illegal. just think, when he first took office, he could not have a private conversation with anybody without that conversation being in doubt. he had...

Kind of thing in his ranks, i go from june 20th forward i go on my trust of their ethical standard. >> george papadopoulos is in a foreign policy meeting in washington, d.c., called him a coffee boy, but regardless of that, he was in a foreign policy meeting with not only jeff sessions who would become the attorney general and high level adviser but also the candidate himself, donald trump, can see him at this table right there, the man who would become the president of the united states. george papadopoulos in this meeting according to somebody else in the meeting that spoke to nbc news said ...