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Clouds the issue that we have serious problems to confront here and conferring it with race is i just think -- >> one second. >> let me touch on a couple things. both you and the senator have brought up good points. when you look at virginia, you can't drive five or ten miles without seeing that is a monument to the war dead in the civil war or civil war battle field or monument itself. that is a separate issue. i agree we do have a problem with criminal justice reform. no question about it. economic opportunity. there's no question about that. but you have to separate the two. they are not th...

Serious problems to confront here and covering it with race, i think, is not -- >> let me touch on a couple of things. i think there's good points on both sides here. both nina and the senator brought up good points. when you look at virginia, you can't drive five, ten miles of seeing something that is a monument to the war dead in the civil war or civil war battlefield or monument itself. that is a separate issue to what nina brought up. which i agree with. we have a problem with criminal injustice and need reform, economic opportunity for folks both in white appalachia and black communities,...

Disparaged by putin. >> matthew, to you now, since you mentioned the woodrow wilson center, what tactics has trump used with other world leaders and how do you expect him to approach this particular situation? >> so putin really is a master of detail. i think he will be prepared. he may not be looking to get into a detailed conversation, for instance, about what a final settlement will look like for syria and terrorism and how you might move forward on the ukraine crisis, what would be the conditions for relief from american and european sanctions but should the conversation move in that direc...

And trump's going to say he's not hillary clinton and not bill cla clinton and that's a good starting point of impact for common nalt. >> matthew to you you, we know vladimir putin comes to meetings very prepared. what tactics has he used with with other world leaders and how do you expect him to approach this particular situation? >> so, putin really is a master of detail. i think he will be prepared, he may not be looking to get into a detailed conversation, for instance about what a final settlement may look like for syria, how you would do a global fight against isis and terrorism ks how y...

Speak in stark and clear terms in the criminal justice system is extremely powerful. >> absolutely. the difficulty here is that on one hand we all want a justice system that keeps us safe that convict it is guilty. on the other hand as the president points out, we have questions about the severity of the criminal justice system and its affect on people of color. so i admire the president and others for engaging this issue. the real question is are we going to see any of this conversation move from words and into action? >> one of the issues that he touched on was making improvements in solitar...